A conversation with Ron Reagan

He supports stem cell research. Would his father have?


Ronald P. Reagan, son of former President Ronald Reagan, became an active supporter of embryonic stem cell research after his father was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease, growing more vocal since his father's death in June. Most recently, Reagan, an MSNBC analyst and self-described liberal, used a prime-time slot at the Democratic National Convention in Boston to address stem cell research. Stanford's Paul Costello, executive director of the medical school's Office of Communication & Public Affairs, spoke with him recently about his advocacy efforts.

Since the Democratic convention, you've received a lot of feedback pro and con. What stands out?

Reagan: Mostly that the feedback is very pro, although you expect to get a few hate letters. But starting while I was in Boston, people on the street would stop me and thank me for doing this, which was unnecessary. I felt fortunate to have the opportunity.

Was it an out-of-body experience for Nancy Reagan to watch a Reagan at a Democratic convention?

Reagan: (Laughing) I didn't ask her that question, but she seemed to be a proud mother and thought it was just fine. She thought I looked good in my suit.

You've led a pretty non-political life, but you've now jumped to advocacy. Is that something you ever imagined yourself doing?

Reagan: Not really. I've never tried to put myself out there as an advocate because it seemed like I'd be taking unfair advantage of my name. When my mother became more involved [in advocating stem cell research], that sort of smoothed the way. It's not just embryonic stem cell research, either. There are stances this administration has taken that are terribly anti-science and anti-intellectual that really offend me.

Are you concerned that advocates are overselling the promise of stem cell research?

Reagan: No, actually. I think it's good to get people excited because the potential is there and the potential, if it's realized, is extraordinary. But you have to be careful to state it as just that -- it's potential. The research is fundamental and preliminary and we don't know exactly how it's going to turn out.

What do you tell those who oppose stem cell research on moral grounds?

Reagan: They have every right to do so if that's how they feel. However, I think that if you're going to make a moral argument you have to be morally consistent, so you'd better be out campaigning against in-vitro fertilization clinics because they're destroying similar early stage embryos by the thousands. I also think you have to make people understand that we are talking about a collection of undifferentiated cells -- not a small fetus. They think we're talking about a tiny little baby and, of course, we're not.

How do you respond to critics who say that your father wouldn't have supported stem cell research?

Reagan: He's not around to speak for himself and I won't speak for him. I don't think anybody else has that right either. If anybody does, it would be my mother and she seems to think that he would have supported stem cell research. I choose to take her word for that -- not somebody who barely knew my father, if at all.

How's your mom doing?

Reagan: She's doing pretty well. She's got a new dog, Duchess, which is a nice thing. What she'd been going through for the last 10 years or so really does drain you. But I think now she's been able to rest a little more and come to grips with things.

How will you continue to use your prominence to push the debate forward?

Reagan: It's my fervent hope that there will be no need to be doing this after Nov. 2 because the government will be behind embryonic stem cell research. John Kerry has promised me that the first thing he'll do if he's elected is sign an executive order reversing the Bush administration's policies on stem cells. If that happens, our worries, hopefully, will be over.

And if it doesn't?

Reagan: Then we'll just keep fighting. I'll keep speaking. I've got something of a soapbox on television and I can use that where it's appropriate and do what I can.

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